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cartalas 1,338 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 10:58am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
So am I Shandri but God isint Mansfield a Armpit.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:05am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I wouldn't presume this is over. If they start using bioterrorism it could get extremely ugly.

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Aranuil 1,864 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:14am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Thanks Marko, I am up to date at the moment. Still trying to confirm the state department bombing, and the location/status of any (commercial) planes in the sky.

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Dalur 1,500 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:19am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I believe last word says the state department wasn't bombed and that all planes should have landed by now.

There were like 50 domestic planes that were within 30 mins from their destinations and they were allowed to land as were 22 or so foreign planes that were allowed to land in the US due to complications with landing in Canada.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:20am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 11:22am (1 edits total) Edited By: Zebedi_needs_ign_merge$$$
A couple of people have mentioned Tom Clancy novels, i'm having those flashbacks too.

The premise in these novels is that the US is unprepared to prevent an attack of this type, which is true. I used to work security at Logan Airport in Boston, and it's mostly a joke. Any Terrorist with half a clue could find a way to get around the security and get a gun into the terminals.

The purported reason that terrorists have not made a large-scale terrorist attack on the United States in the past is psycological. The feeling is that the terrorists know that the citizens of the United States are mostly compacent about global matters, foreign policy is not a major concern unless it effects us here. With this attack they have "awakened the giant". This is the worst attack on American soil since Pearl harbor, I imagine the responce will be similar.

Welcome to world war three, god help us all.

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Edit: Holy fuck.. CNN says all commercial planes are down.. and i just heard a military jet in a hurry fly over boston!
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Sirton_needs_ign_merge$$$ 139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:23am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
This act is much worse than Pearl Harbor ever was...and as Many high lvl Govt officials and former Sec. of Defense have said The European Union and Russian Gov't...That this was a act of WAR. It is sad beyond belief and shocked, but we are forced to be at WAR! And all countries Harboring terriorost or show support prepare to have the same fate..I mean Cities in dust. The response must be 1000times worse. Estimate 10,000+ American citizens died today. Thats atleast 1/5th of the entire Vietnam War and 1/4th of the Korean War in one act. America today has lost alot of its freedom and will never be the same. The world will never be the same sad.gif

Prays for the loss of innocent life sad.gif
God Bless America
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The_Machine_ 527 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:23am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
..........

I don't think I've anything new to say that hasn't already been said. My heart felt condolences to those involved, who have lost a loved one, or who they themselves perished.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:35am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
"Estimate 10,000+ American citizens died today"

I fear the number will be a lot higher than that.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:44am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Don't forget that a lot of international businesses set up shop there too. More than Americans died in that.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:45am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Whoever posted that IRC channel I tried it and I'm the only one in the chat room, post again, I want to check on what's going on as I'm in an office with no TV's radio and one hell of a proxy block.

Also, my prayers and thoughts go out to us all, national guard is starting to recall here in Nash......
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cartalas 1,338 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:47am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
http://www.startribune.com/stories/571/685333.html


My vote for the first attack.



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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:51am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 11:54am (1 edits total) Edited By: Zebedi_needs_ign_merge$$$
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My vote for the first attack.
Cartalas "

Asshole, you want to blow up stupid, misinformed palistinian kids? Any other playgrounds you want nuked?

Edit: Spoken in anger, we're all pissed off and frightened, but lets take a deep breath before saying stupid things like that.


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cartalas 1,338 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 11:55am Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 11:58am (2 edits total) Edited By: cartalas
I said the country you asshole and sent the picture because it is sad that people are cheering, and by the way look at the guy smiling in the foreground you think he thought about the children here? So hell yes Bomb them. If you have cancer dont you cut it out incase your not watching the news turn it on allot of people died and two 110 story buildings are no more.


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Edit: Same here but its not the kids im pissed at its there Parents. Oh and by the way if Allah turns out to be the real god well then im screwed because when i see him im gonna kick him in the balls.


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The_Machine_ 527 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:02pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Guys, we're all angry, do not take this out on one another, no one here flew the planes. If you're angry, go play a fps and kill someone, and come back when you've had a chance to cool. I don't want to see people bieng attacked for stating their opinion. Every person is allowed their opinion, you can agree to disagree, but today is NOT the day to flame the person.

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cartalas 1,338 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:05pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Can I still kick Allah in the Balls.


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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:11pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
We have our time to pray. And we have our time to whoop ass.....Hopfully Bush will fuck them up for this.
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Voronwe_Nimbrethil 2,823 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:11pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
CNN Center in Atlanta evacuated all non-essential personnel several hours ago. i am glad i got to leave. I was pretty nervous at the time.

THis is all so very strange. I know in atlanta most businesses have closed for the day, i suspect the same is going on where you guys live.

hope all your friends and and family are OK.

Talk to ya'll later.
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Shizru 183 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:18pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
EVERYTHING in the Washington DC/Baltimore area is completely shut down. And I mean everything!
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Aranuil 1,864 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:18pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 12:25pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Aranuil
Cartalas,

Are you looking for a two-day ban?

Pay close attention here to a few key points:

1. We do not yet know who was responsible for the attacks.

2. There are a lot of people in the mid-east that do not like (even hate) the United States because of our support for Israel. Just like you or I, here in the U.S., they are entitled to their opinion.

3. When a specific mastermind/group/political leadership is found to have organized this, I have no problems with dropping the gloves and pursuing them with full-force. However, until that time (which is not here yet) the best thing we can do is pick up the pieces, help the wounded, bury our dead, and start the investigation.

4. True muslims will denounce this kind of atrocity. Please do not pretend to understand the way the muslim religion works until you have read the Koran or become familiar with it. There are many misconceptions, and it is neither your fault or the faults of any others that share your views. This is how we have been socialized in the United States.

Lets back away from the calling for people's heads until we know whose heads to call for.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:22pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Most everything here in Madison is still open they have only blocked off the capitol building and closed one or 2 offices as of the last news report I saw. I know some schools in other states that aren't near NY or DC are closed but ours are still open too. This whole thing is just crazy. Someone needs to pay

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Sirton_needs_ign_merge$$$ 139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:22pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
We had bomb threats at Houston ship channel..our school evacuated since in area. Who knows this may all be the start of something very nasty can harbor bio or nukes in ships afganastan has nuclear technology...I dont think todays actions will be the last.

My personal opinion is exterminate any countries harboring these terriost organizations..then they wont have anyone to retribute back...or the response so massive, like the memorial in Hiroshima or Nagasaki says something similar too..Let us never repeat our evils.
These evil organizations have just awoken the sleeping giant.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:25pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
My post about them having 18 minutes to evacuate saving lives is too optimistic after hearing that it took up to two hours to get out of the building during the Trade Center Bombing years ago.

Sirton's figures may have to be adjusted to about half of the lives lost in the Vietnam war lost in this tragedy today. (for perspective)

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:30pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Aranuil...

All of the evidence although not substantiated points toward a Muslim extremist group. Take a look at almost all of the terrorist attacks carried out against US targets recently and virtually all were Muslim extremist groups claiming responsibility.

I do agree however that true Muslims will denounce this act. The Koran does not preach violence the same as the Bible doesn't but how many so called religious leaders have duped their followers into terrible acts all under the guise of religion.

One thing is certain in my mind that unless the US reacts swiftly and harshly these acts will continue to play themselves out.

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Aranuil 1,864 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:45pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 12:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Aranuil
Hammerstalker,

I read your post several times, and we agree on all points. The point I was really trying to get across was that this is the time of prudence, not rash actions.

In the book 'The Sum of All Fears' by Tom Clancy, terrorists set off a nuclear device at the superbowl, and leave evidence to implicate a country as being behind it in an effort to start off World War III.

Also, please recall that when the Oklahoma City bombing occurred, initially Mid-East terrorists were accused of being responsible. We all know how that turned out.

In summation, I am not saying a Mid-East terrorist group is not responsible, and I am not saying we should not take action. What I am saying, is that once we have a target, we erradicate it with extreme prejudice.

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Shizru 183 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:46pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

Nostradamus (2 years, 2 months off)

Just something to think about.
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Aranuil 1,864 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:48pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 12:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Aranuil
Umm sorry. No.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:57pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Quit with the Nostradamus crap. Twist his words enough and he predicted everything.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:57pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
/agree Winnow

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Pilsburry 143 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 12:59pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
He did come close on alot of things..and most of the predictions that were wrong are not mentioned =)

Needless to say there are a few predictions of his that are relevant (whether they come to pass or not doesn't matter). I find it interesting reading.

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Dalur 1,500 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:03pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 1:12pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Dalur
Dalur's Prediction 9/11/2001 - Somebody(s) in the near future, is going to pay dearly for this attrocious crime.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:05pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
"And a shitstorm shall be dropped upon Afghanistan in 2001 by the great Eagle"

Winnow 9/11/2001

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:13pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Farg and i both live in NYC..and we're still in complete shock, all the phone lines are down..people are running around in the streets where we are..its kinda scary being out in the street and seeing an F16 fly righ tover my head..all i can say is im in total shock and if they find out that this was a state supported act of terrorism, i hope the USA goes to war

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Vetiria 2,131 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:18pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Can anyone confirm this?

I read on the general board that the Camp David treaty was signed on September 11, 1999.

Is that true?

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Yea was signed sept 11th..also tomarrow in the court house across the street from the world trade center a member of that terriost guys group held up in afganistan (sorry cant spell)Adladim..was suppose to be on trial.
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Madren 323 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:22pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
welp i am fucked. transport back to NJ from NYC is crippled, looks like i am sleeping in my office.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:24pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
well, im going to the marines for basic training at Oct. 15(no, i didnt join from recent events. I decided to join before the summer). What happened today was really shocking and reality hasn't hit me yet. I mean...wtf are the terrorists even thinking? If there is a war and if im taking part in it, I'll be sure to bust a rambo on a few terrorist BASTARDS who have tried to disturb the US. how dare they? damn im mad now...
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Aranuil 1,864 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:25pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
"On Sept. 11, 1922, a British mandate was proclaimed in Palestine, despite Arab protests. It lasted until 1948, after the United Nations authorized a partition of the territory and the state of Israel was established. "

"On Sept. 11, 1972, the troubled Munich Summer Olympics, also remembered as "the Olympics of Terror," ended. For 21 hours under live television cameras, hooded gunmen of the Palestinian faction "Black September" held Israeli athletes hostage, killing 11 of them during a botched getaway and airport firefight with German antiterrorism squads."

Courtesy of foxnews.com

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Vetiria 2,131 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:27pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
The wife of the Solicitor General (the man that argued Bush's case in the election) was on the plane that hit the pentagon.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:51pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I was talking to my girlfriend on the phone (I'm at work) as she was describing the plane hitting the first tower, when she gasped and was unable to talk. My heart froze because I realized it was something very serious. She started crying and could barley tell me that a second plane had hit the second tower on TV. That was first thing this morning. I have been searching out the info available to me since then.

My heart goes out to all involved.

But let's take a serious look at casualty figures.

Just so everyone knows, 50,000 is the max capacity of the Towers. When the attack occurred proir to 9am, there were maybe 20,000 in both towers. If the attack had happened 2 hours later, the numbers would've been more like 40,000.

>1st tower is hit. Kills all on board the plane and takes lives from the initial explosion.

After this point, people were already starting the evac proceedure from both towers and the surrounding buildings when the next attack occurred.

>2nd tower is hit. Kills all on board the plane and kills many in the blast.

It was about 1/2 hour before the towers actually fell. Reports from hospitals confirm casualties from the intital blasts have made it to hospitals. It's safe to assume the majority of the people up to the colission area had made it out. However, anyone above the blast area on both towers were stuck.

>Towers collapse killing anyone remaining in the buildings (mainly in the upper floors), including God knows how many rescue workers, firemen, and police officers.

These figures, combined with the other plane crashes and numbers that have been made public in reguards to the Pentegon make me believe the total DEATH count will be in the area of 7-10,000. Injuries will be astronomical.

Hopefully this will put some perspective on the numbers that are in people's heads. This incident weighs heavily on my heart and mind.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 1:57pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
you saw it live voro?
damn that had to be scary...

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:03pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Personal opinion is that there will be plenty of evidence of who did this, despite public denials and claims of responsibility. Those planes made major flight path deviations and were in the air for sometime. There had to be some kind of contact with flight controllers. Also, if the cockpit flight recorders are found, there will be clues there as to who did this. No airline pilot would fly those planes into the towers EVEN with a gun at their head. I speculate that they had semi-trained pilots on board that were willing to die. I also speculate that somehow the one that crashed in rural pennsylvania was purposely put down there by a member of the flight crew for the very reason they would refuse to do it.

America will find out who did this. We will make them pay.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:16pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Our freedom sits at the end of a gun.

Americans are screeming bloody hell.

No one is really sure how justice will be served but an American will be holding the gun with a fury unparalleled.

We all see red.
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:21pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Aran I agree with you, Identify then destroy.
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Vetiria 2,131 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:21pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
"Just so everyone knows, 50,000 is the max capacity of the Towers. When the attack occurred proir to 9am, there were maybe 20,000 in both towers. If the attack had happened 2 hours later, the numbers would've been more like 40,000."

Actually, it was on one of the news channels that the managers of the WTC buildings released a statement saying that at the time the first plane hit the buildings, they were at full capacity.

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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:27pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I'll bet that 10,000 figure is at least 5,000 off the mark.

Another 40+ story building just colapsed.

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The_Machine_ 527 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:30pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
#7 just fell, but it was more than likely evac'd already

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:32pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I simply cannot believe the world trade centers are GONE. From the middle of one of the most densely packed places on earth.

When you think the world is finally figuring out violence isnt solving things...

*sigh*

I prayed i would never experience a day that would landmark history like this.

"Where were you on Sept 11, 2001"

Hoped never to hear words like that and have the answer burned in my memory so hard.

Personaly, I dont want to see war, or bombings or any more death of any kind right now thanks. I've had enough frankly. However feel free to round up the in-humans that claim responsibility for this. Throw them in a sensory deprivation chamber for the next 30 years untill they forget what colors are and what sound is. Untill they get a very real idea of how precious life is.

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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:49pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
I just saw footage of children and everyone running and cheering through the streets of gazza territorym wherever that is. Everyone doing peace signs to the cameras and smiling and cheering. I'm sorry but i hope we nuke the streets where all these people are cheering for this shit, children and all.


...My aunts office is(was rather) on the 80th floor of the North World Trade Center building, and my family has not heard from her yet and we havent been able to get in touch.
2 of my good friends are also in NYC on vacation and i cant get through to their cell phone. OMFG if anyone i know was killed im going to die
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Winnow 1,476 posts
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 2:58pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck
Retaliation already has begun

Afgan city explosions

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so that I don't know that I'm at work? Could I come home
and think that I've been fishing all day or something?"
-Office Space
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Date Posted: 9/11/01 3:01pm Subject: RE: Holy Fuck - Date Edited: 9/11/01 3:05pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Vetiria
nm, saw it on TV

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